Erlkönigin

Hey-a, Patts. Try the following:

1. Take a look at various builds and general ways to wick. Wicking is really important. Too little at the inner-top edges of the channels and you could make for some leaking. Too much inside the channels and you can have dry hits.

2. Check all your o-rings are secure and in pace.

3. Make sure tank is fitted and sealed both top and bottom.

4. Twist bottom afc black ring all the way up and tight.

5. Unscrew the drip tip enough to allow you to twist the top section exposing the fill holes. Do not unscrew the drip tip more than you have to...just enough to be able to rotate top section pretty easily.

6. Place a finger on top of the drip tip sealing it. Keep it sealed through to and including step 10.

7. Fill with juice at a steady pace......don't want to go too slowly.

8. As a first try, fill to 80% or so.

9. Rotate top ring to close fill holes

10. Not sure if it's helpful at this point but try to keep that finger covering the drip tip and now screw it down the rest of way and tightly closed.

11. Loosen black AFC ring according to airflow you want or just remove it to be wide open.


Hope this helps!

 

Great tips Scratchy!

I only never do point 6. But it can't hurt if that works better! I will try!

Point 8 I always fill it up only 20%, after some vaping I fill it up until 80%, that seems to work better for me! It never leaks with this 20% first try! But it does sometimes leak when I go right to the 80%.

 

Referring to V's question: No, you shouldn't have to do that. I have refilled a few times with no leaks at all (even without afc ring in place and with it on a mod) but made the suggestion to Patts to see if it helped eliminate or greatly reduce flooding. Someone in the ECF thread talked about putting a #60 o-ring on top of chimney to improve the seal and it stopped his refill leaks. I don't have that o-ring size otherwise I would try...I still have had a little leaking once or twice but not the gushing dumps of juice I saw early on. I need to see if it is limited to only one of the two models I have here or what.

 

I don't, but I fill it up very fast!

 

That's a good suggestion and wanted to try that as you mentioned it before but had forgotten. I will try that in near future....about 20% or so initial fill, vape a little, then fill up to about 80%. Next try though I will do a fill before it gets dry and only do steps 6 to 10 and see how it goes.

 

I call it the Quitch.

When it wants to be nice it is a Queen. When it feels like it it's a real bitch!

I have gotten used to never putting it on my mod until I am sure the Vacuum has been achieved. And the many suggestions above will help with that.

I recently spent a half hour cleaning the juice out of my VS switch with some contact cleaner. Bitch! It was actually my own fault as I hadn't followed my own advice correctly.


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Yeah Pipcon you're right about this & I have enough bitches in my life. lol
Cleaning the mess is one thing & wasting good juice is another.


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OK, I did a complete rebuild of the 100% cigreen version I have and did steps 5-10 with no AFC ring installed. Filled to about 80% per my previous recommendation and did so at a pretty fast pace and with finger over drip tip. Result? After screwing drip tip all the way down and then releasing my finger from top of drip tip, it leaked some, not a lot. Maybe equivalent to about 3 drips.

Based on all I have seen online I know I have a good coil and wick setup so it leads me to believe it is a vacuum/pressure related issue of some kind. Not sure if it is specific to the Cigreen I have. Next attempt with that version will be same steps but with AFC closed and I will tip it over before unscrewing AFC ring.

One thing worth noting is that it came without an o-ring for cap section sitting on the chimney so that may be part of the issue. I actually found a nice sized o-ring I will slip on the chimney section just below it's threads so will try that in a future build.

Also, on my other erlk I will try the same steps I just did with the Cigreen and see if the behavior is different. After that and I'll do the steps Konvict mentioned when I refill it. I will keep the AFC and drip tip open when I try that.

So, at this point, referring to fill steps I have been taking, I feel I need to fill my Cigreen after taking off a mod. I had a good string of no-leak refills in the past so suspect that may have been with my other version erlk. I'll let everyone know what happens next time.

 

Thanks Scratchy.

I would love to know where the leakage sometimes comes from.

I always have the feeling it is more from the way how you put the wick in than anything else, but somehow when I did the 80% filling in one time it started gurgling from the start and than the endless flood came, if I do 20% first no gurgling and dry a bone with a much bigger chance that after that the 80% filling will hold without any major leaking problems!

 

I filled mine right to the top minus about 1ml last night. It was a refill filling from about 10%, no leakage at all apart from a miniscule amount from the other fill hole.

 

What clone model do you have Rick and do you use AFC ring and close it down first? Happy to hear you have avoided any leaks!

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I thought of that too but if it were only the wick itself I think it would leak all the time. I know I have a good wick seal and made sure it was shaped to not allow it to be moved or distorted when putting on the chimney. I believe something is messing up the vacuum and pressure allowing the juice up or around the channels to such an extent that it leaks through the deck's center air hole. I could be completely wrong in thinking this though. Hopefully I can narrow it down soon....like I mentioned before someone with a clone had it leak consistently when refilling and only addressed by adding an o-ring to chimney part. I'll be trying that on the Cigreen version in the future.

BTW, my leaking the last couple times I had it didn't appear until after I have it closed down...I can actually watch it just begin to come out afterwards.

 

I meant to say 1mm not 1ml but it was pretty much right to the top. I bought this one $20.75 Erlkonigin Style Rebuildable Tank Atomizer (8ml) - stainless steel + PMMA tank / 20.7mm dia. at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

It didn't shut the airflow or anything just refilled it steadily to the top. There was so much juice in it that some came from the other juice hole but there was a tiny gap of air at the top.

I've vaped it a bit but it was higher than in this picture

 

Reading some other hints online:

User larger diameter coil for ex. 2.4 mm id so you can have larger shoulders at top (My Cigreen was I think about 2.0mm so will try and get larger wick shoulders).

Use a secondary wick: Post with pics #3858: The Erlkönigin : PICTORIAL - Page 386

Repeated: Close AFC ring and do not fill to a high level

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Thanks, Rick. That's the same as the other version I have and thought maybe didn't have the occasional leaking issue. I'll try it out using standard refill method next time.

 

It has leaked before but that time i did pump the liquid in hard with a syringe.

I usually do 2mm coils but do use 2.5mm on the Erlk but as far as wicking goes I just cut flush with the channel and trim at 45 degrees parallel to the channel that leads to the coil.