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Discussion in 'The Thailand Vaping Newbies' started by BuzzSamui, Jun 19, 2014.

  1. smithereens

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    I'd also recommend to consider the hana clone. You'll probably work your way up to it eventually anyway, and if so, you might as well just get it right away. But is that aerotank a Kanger (brand)? I might have read on Reddit about people being unable to use Kangers with the hana clone. It shorted out or something which can be dangerous I think. There's also info about it here: Updates for the Cana Mod DNA 30 Clone.

    I'm planning on selling my Kayfun 3.1 sometime soon. (Hcigar clone bought from Big's shop ~1-2 months ago). If you're interested in it, hit me up. I can send you pics and be glad to give a great price. I never use it anymore because I prefer RDAs and use those exclusively nowadays.
     
  2. BuzzSamui
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    BuzzSamui Thread Starter Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for sending this link Smithereens !

    Yep the Aerotank Mega is a Kanger product ... couldn't find anything in that article about them shorting with the DNA Clone, only this:

    **UPDATE 6/4/14 @ 4:19AM EST: KANGER AEROTANK ISSUE HAS BEEN FIXED! The kanger megas come with a pin that is pushed in very far. You need to remove the base of the aerotank and push the pin out a LITTLE more so that it can make contact with the cana mod.

    **UPDATE 6/4/14 @ 1:59AM EST: DO NOT USE A KANGER AEROTANK, MEGA OR MINI WITH YOUR CANA MOD, THE PINS ARE CAUSING ISSUES.

    ..............

    So this guy (KST) has pointed out exactly what I found (& the Aerotank Mega instructions point out too - the pins are pushed too far in and need to be pulled out a tad to make correct contact) ... that's all the issue is as far as I can gather from that article. PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong because I just ordered the DNA30 Clone !!!

    ....................

    What are RDA's ? (sorry I'm still very much a newbie)

    Tks for yr offer for the Kayfun, but already have just got the Aspire Nautilus (very happy with it so far even using it on crappy eGo's) and Aerotank mega, so will leave the Kayfun's for some time later down the track I think.

    :cheers:
     
  3. -V-
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    I read that about 20 minutes ago too, looks like it was just with the Kanger tanks, but also looks like the fix worked. I also read that the first batch of the DNA 30 clones had different 510 connections and that they have changed them now, but not sure when they changed them.


    RDA -> Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer (you directly drip e-liquid on the wick/coil, it only holds a few drops at a time, silica wick is mainly used on these) examples are Igo-l, phoenix, nimbus, v5 etc.


    RBA -> Rebuildable Atomizer (these ones have a tank that holds e-liquid and are mainly used with vertical stainless steel mesh wick) examples are Cobra, did, ZAP, AGA-T, Ody, Ithaca, RSST, KayFun etc
     
  4. BuzzSamui
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    BuzzSamui Thread Starter Well-Known Member

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    yeah, interesting to know Morph if they have changed those 510 connections - can't you tell from the pics posted in that article which one you have ?

    tks for explaing that about RDA's, RBA's - muchly appreciated

    I know someone suggested a FAQ section ... maybe just a simple glossary of terms for newbies would be good
    (vv/vw, PG/VG, rda's/rba's etc. that sort of stuff makes it hard when starting off to understand what guys are talking about in the many posts you try and read to get going)

    yo
     
  5. smithereens

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    Here's an example of an RDA:
    Stillare RDA clone 1:1

    In the pics, you can see the three posts standing up in the interior section. That's where you attach your coil. You can use wire such as kanthal (easy to get here) and wrap it around a 2mm (example) screwdriver anywhere from about 4 - 12 times to make a coil. Then after attaching the coil to the posts, you make a wick by placing a thin piece of cotton thru the coil. Then you just soak the cotton with your juice and vape on it. When it's beginning to get dry, you can remove the drip tip, then drip about 5-10 drops down into the RDA and then vape some more. Each time you drip you can get 5-10 big hits from it. It varies as does everything in this explanation. The vape you get from these are really really nice in terms of flavour and vapour production.

    Apologies if none of that is news to you. When I started out and saw pics of RDAs, I remember thinking how the **** does that even work?
     
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    I can't tell from the pictures no.
    It says that the left one is the fixed 510 pin, but I don't see the difference myself;
    Screen Shot 2557-06-20 at 4.32.50 PM.jpg

    If you held a gun to my head and said I must say left or right I would have to go right though.....
     
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  7. smithereens

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    The 510 on the left is the new one. It looks sturdier. But the important difference is the connector pin at the bottom. The new one has a smaller diameter. This is beneficial because it prevents the threading on your atty from touching it. That's why some attys (like the Kanger I guess) were having problems. On those, the atty's connector pin and it's threading were touching the hana's connector pin - which causes it to short.

    Mine has the 510 on the right, but I've had no problems with it because I've only been using atty's that have adjustable connector pins. I make sure to extend them to give them clearance from the threading.
     
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    Yep, I see it more now, mine is for sure the right for both of my DNA 30s, I am guessing the new ones have only just been done so they aren't the ones we have. I use a KayFun and have no problems at all.
     
  9. smithereens

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    Yeah, I think the new 510 is a very recent development on these clones. Just a guess, but I doubt any of the clones for sale here have it yet. Nice to see that Cloupor is steadily improving the quality of these though, and actively responding to the feedback they're getting from the American vendors.
     
  10. BuzzSamui
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    BuzzSamui Thread Starter Well-Known Member

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    Shite !
    I totally get what you guys are saying about the DNA30 and the very latest version having a smaller diameter connecter pin to stop the possibility of shorting ...

    I just ordered one (DNA30) so I can use especially with my brand new Kanger Mega (which i haven't even been able to have 1 vape with yet) ... IF it shorts I will be totally gutted

    Micky hasn't confirmed the DNA30 clone order yet (said he would do tonite)
    - what should I do guys, ask Micky to hold off on sending one till he gets the new latest updated version in or what ?

    (I've already paid for it btw, and still want one - just totally unaware of this possible shorting prob using the DNA30's and the Kanger Aerotank Mega)

    Thanks heaps for pointing this out Smithereens - at least i am now aware !

    :thank you:
     
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    Well, if Micky hasn't shipped it yet I am sure he would do you a refund.
    The thing is these DNA 30 clones are really good from what using them.
    I would say it would be a while till Micky or Big got the latest version in, but you'd have to ask them really.

    I thought that this fix might mix the issue with the old 510;

    It's a hard one for sure.....but the last thing you need is to get it and then can't use it....
     
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    I'm sure Micky could test the combination and let you know if it's working.
     
  13. Micky

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    I used Aerotank mega on this mod for a week
    with no problem
     
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    Sounds good....Thanks for letting us know....:very good:
     
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    I have just something completely different. In the beginning of the treag Buzz you wrote that you placed the Nautilus tank on the ego battery and used it without problems, and then you got a lot of problems when placing the Kanger Aero Mega tank on the same ego battery. I already pointed out the different in Ohms the two tanks come with, so you already know this, But there is another difference between the Nautilus and the Aero Mega and that is the center pin on the 510 connection. The center pin on the Nautilus is fare more out than the centerpin on the Aero Mega tank. You just might have pressed the center pin on your ego battery so much down, so when you later tried the Aero Mega tank the centerpin of the ego battery was pressed down to much and now did not make contact with the centerpin on the Aero Mega tank.

    This is a common problem with nearly all ego batteries, and it can be corrected quiet easy. I give you a link to a video, just showing you how. Yes you can also push the centerpin on the Aero Mega tank a bit out, but it could happen that the coil then not longer has contact to the centerpin inside the tank, so you might also gently pul the center pin of the coil a little bit out in order to get contact.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBbqaEMgesc
     

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