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HCigar DNA35 Mini Danger!!!

Discussion in 'General Thailand Vaping Discussion' started by -V-, Sep 13, 2014.

  1. fruit-lover
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    Speaking of 'teasing,'
    I like your motorbike profile pic.
    Is it a 150 or a 200 cc ?
     
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    Lol, that hurts

    Sent from the future
     
  3. Talen
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    I disagree that China can't do DNA style chips...Yihi have been in the industry for a long time making chips for various electronic devices and know their shit but unfortunately even their chips are being cloned or copied and some of these devices that claim to have their chip in them really don't.
     
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    well am i the only one which had the impression its a sponsored by vaporshark review just talking really bad about the cheap ass clone of the VS DNA devices?

    the hot glue doesnt really look teasing, but what does VS using, there is not much what u can use to fix parts in pastic box, so i would be more intrested to see a open VS review, and i could bet it looks pretty similar.

    However, its a well known fact that chinese electronics are not a lot good, i mean we see that at our car manufacturers, the ones using cheap chinese electronics always having problems. And the reason why Japanese cars are sooooo reliable is the hate the chinese soo much they would never put chinese electronics in any of their stuff.

    However ... the device shown in the review doesnt look damaged at all to me, there is no black stuff, nothing burned, so really if they guy has such a faulty device slam the battery in there again and lets see whats going on, and hold on to it till its melted away.
     
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    Hmmm, I didn't get that from the video. He said that he had purchased 2 of these mods...one to review & keep and one to give away so unless he's just outright lying, I don't think that the review was sponsored by VS.

    I posted a pic of the inside of my VS DNA here: Inside of VS DNA30. I don't recall seeing any hot glue...but I wasn't really looking for it at the time. The power (vape) switch is the 1-piece blue unit and the up/down buttons sit in little cut-outs in the case...it was a royal PIA to get it to stay in place when it came time to close up. Unfortunately, the 510 connector is cut off in the picture. I'll take a better one the next time I open it up as now I'm curious, too.
     
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    I've seen in a video that VS don't use any glue in their assembly for the simple reason that it's potentially disastrous
     
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    well with something they must fix the parts, its not screws for sure :D
     
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    it smells fishy indeed. the 510 is hold by a clasp of the cap..so it cant get lose and 'fall down'. its exact the same with the VS. and why the hell he didnt mention that this couldnt happen?

    another point is that it looks pretty good for a fired up device.

    whatever...may the the reviewer really represents his own opinion idk. but ive seen so many fake posts from modders/manufacturers in different forums over the last 2 years just to rate down clones..it wouldnt surprise me anymore.

    and is the VS not dna30? this dna35 clone could be another potential threat. i mean why not buy a 35watt device for much less money than a 30watts device? we need to spread some panic... ;)
     
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    Wow. This is a crazy freaking thread. First off, oil, aren't you an engineer? You can't figure out how VS designed it to work without hot glue? Everything uses standoffs designed into the casing to hold it into place.

    Second, why would VS pay for negative reviews of other products? There are no VS DNA or rDNA clones yet. VS doesn't make the DNA chip, evolv does. The two companies are not related.

    Unfortunately, it seems most people don't understand what makes the DNA chips so great, something that these Yihi chips and all these other Chinese chips don't do; they dynamically adjust the power as the resistance in the coil changes. This happens because the resistance changes when the coil is heated, and the DNA adjusts thousands of times per second to compensate. The DNA also uses 800hz PWM, which is a much smoother signal than the cheap Chinese chips at 33hz. The Provari also uses 800hz btw. The fact that the chip does 30 watts is almost an afterthought to me, it really isn't that important of a number.

    As for what makes the VS so good, it isn't flawless manufacturing or anything like that. VS is a juice shop chain in the Miami area, they certainly don't make the mods themselves, they order them from China. What they do right is they have good insight as to what features they should require, they listen to customer feedback, and they aren't afraid to send the shit back to China if it comes out wrong. Look at the features: cast, not milled, spring-loaded 510 connection, reinforced USB connection. Many of the parts were upgraded from the original DNA 20 VS.

    Anyway, rant is over. Continue your argument, but at least back it with some facts.
     
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    well ryanmacl thats how the business goes. sad but true. if thats the case right here we dont know. but we alwys should be at least abit sceptical nowadays. and most of the users do not have a deeper understanding of what is the difference of those chips..they just see oh 30watts (or whatever) thats cool..
     
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    I don't know about the Yihi or Cloupor chips auto-sensing changes to coil resistance as it heats (a great feature to have!) but understand they have mostly completely moved away from the lower frequency PWM that older Chinese chip designs used. They produce flat-line DC signal readings just like the DNA chips and no longer the "rattlesnake" vaping effect. My cana mod (Hana clone by Cloupor), Cloupor T5 and Sigelei 20W all vape extremely well and very consistently. Still, if given the choice of the exact same mod with an Evolve DNA or Chinese chip with same power output, I would definitely choose the Evolve DNA.
     
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    i am just saying i never ever have seen a opened VS, there are other methods to fix things in a plastic box, but that requires the injection moulding to create some posts where parts could be sitting on. Nevertheless those posts will be only supportive its not the finaly fix, and most likely it will be some sort of glue or some other (press) fittings.

    (since english isnt my native language i doubt i ll catched the right words for what i wanted to say :D)

    Ahh yep i think standoffs is maybe the better word but even there its never a true fix, its just a position holder :D

    .... Cause thats how the media works since years, so its nothing uncommon (unfortunatly) we usually realise it only when something smells fishy .... and this review did sound fishy for me.


    thats ist just what every Wattage driven means, so its not related to the DNA s only, I still just at everything with electricity :D but what i was able to understand is that the Wattage driven devices regulate the Volts so that i have the same / similar Vaping experience when i vape in the same Wattage area, cause my device attached the Volts according to the Ohms ....

    So its nothing what only the DNA chicps have, its simply what Wattage Vaping stands for. the eVolve chips are up untill now not able to step down voltage lower the battery voltage, every Yihi cheap ass chip is technology wise way beyond that. So i really dont see why the Chinese chips should be bashed down

    .... i really thought all of the time that the VS DNAs / rDNAs would be made in USA, and i could bet that most people believe so. Anyhow your right on this one, what sucks terribly on all chinese stuff is that the Quality Control does litereally not exist.

    I mean when we watch the ProVape video from Phil, i start to believe that the ProVari devices are only that good cause they get double and triple tested at every station they pass. I had the impression any device which passed 300 tests till its gets into the box for shipping it will also last the next 200 years :D

    So all what Provape does is a lot of testing over and over again, although i am sure on unoffical numbers their defective goods they trash right away is at least every 3rd device LOL.
     
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    The yehi chips are actually fantastic and made by a company that has been in the business of making chips for electronics for some time. If the DNA chips are so great why haven't they done the simplest thing...reverse battery protection?

    The one unfortunate part about Yehi chips or boards is the fact that they are being counterfitted now by other Chinese companies which could hurt their brand.
     
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