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Kayfun Clone questions

Discussion in 'Rebuildable Atomisers' started by nattiboy, Mar 6, 2014.

  1. Mack
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    Mack Well-Known Member

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    Looks like this is not the best clone to build as a nano then, fill quantity from the top is about 1.5ml. Im loving the vape from this though and the build quality is amazing. Looks like Ill have to get a ft one for my nano build.
     
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    Just rebuilt my Kayfun to its normal size tank and as soon as I fill it above about 1ml it leaks everywhere. It was leaking into the 510 adapter well a little before but now its leaking out of the air flow whole as well. I tried blowing it through and it just empted the tank into my lap. Is this a cotton issue, I dont think I have any on the deck and its looks ok with only a little liquid in it?

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    Are all your O-rings ok? If so, my guess is you don't have enough cotton (or it isn't positioned correctly) along the sides of the build deck. You have to cover the juice channels, but not shove the cotton inside. If there is a clear path for the juice from the juice channels into the build deck, what you are describing will happen.
     
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    Does this mean the cotton has to stop the liguid level from rising, ive tryed more cotton and less cotton and the channels are free. as soon as i fill the tank above the deck level gravety emtys the tank. my cotton builds look like all the pics i have seen. Ive even made sure the only cotton on the build deck is whats going through the coil.
     
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    Yes, the cotton blocks the juice from free-flowing up. The cotton needs to act as a wick for the Kayfun to function correctly.
     
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    Thanks Ryan, looks like i need to pack in more cotton until i get the right blockage, ether that or my liguid channels are too big. I dont quit get it though as if i was using silica wick i couldnt stop the effect of gravety without partialy blocking the channels, or having a sealed tank like in a water dispencer.
     
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    The juice channels are the grooves cut into the threading and along the bottom of the base. You don't want to shove cotton into those. What you want to do is put the cotton along the sides of the build deck. You can do it with silica by using the S-wick method, where the middle of the S is inside the coil and the top and bottom are pressed against the juice channels. It will adequately block the free flow of juice into the chamber.
     
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    Ive just tried another build with the cotton as tight as i can get it through my toothpick size coil, left about 1 cm on each side above the chimney section and then packed the sides down tight. I then filled the tank to just above deck level and waitd 5 minutes. now seeping out of the air hole again and if i undo the 510 pin its leaking too so my addaptor section must be full too. Time to vape this allittle before i try again.
     
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    You need to leave 2-3 cm on either side of the coil and pack it in lightly. Watch my Kayfun video or Pbusardos for an idea of what I'm talking about.
     
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    I was leaving about 1.5 cm ether side, and packing lightly, i now have 3 cm ether side, packed tight and the liguid is still flowing too well. I have watch both videos many times but nothing seems to stop this one from flowing, im using a thick liquid too.

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    OK so now im testing with water to see if anything will stop the gravety effects and let me fill the tank above the deck level. Ive packed the cotton in as tight as i can, not interested in the coil at this stage just trying to find out what amount of cotton will stop this overflowing down the center hole. My answer seams to be nothing. Is this Kayfun defective?

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    No chance of a dry burn with this.

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    After emailing ecigboxblabkgadgetshop in Pataya i was given a link that showes the method for top filling

    http://youtu.be/hYCKVzAfcz0

    Im not sure why this works but it has done the trick I think, I now have a nano build thats held 1.8 ml of water for a few hours of being left on its side as well as stood normaly. This method did leak through the tip when inverting but after the initial leak theres been no more problems.

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    After emailing ecigboxblabkgadgetshop in Pataya i was given a link that showes the method for top filling

    http://youtu.be/hYCKVzAfcz0

    Im not sure why this works but it has done the trick I think, I now have a nano build thats held 1.8 ml of water for a few hours of being left on its side as well as stood normaly. This method did leak through the tip when inverting but after the initial leak theres been no more problems.

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    After emailing ecigboxblabkgadgetshop in Pataya i was given a link that showes the method for top filling

    http://youtu.be/hYCKVzAfcz0

    Im not sure why this works but it has done the trick I think, I now have a nano build thats held 1.8 ml of water for a few hours of being left on its side as well as stood normaly. This method did leak through the tip when inverting but after the initial leak theres been no more problems.

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    After emailing ecigboxblabkgadgetshop in Pataya i was given a link that showes the method for top filling

    http://youtu.be/hYCKVzAfcz0

    Im not sure why this works but it has done the trick I think, I now have a nano build thats held 1.8 ml of water for a few hours of being left on its side as well as stood normaly. This method did leak through the tip when inverting but after the initial leak theres been no more problems.
     
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    Where did you post the vid Ryan? Any other videos recommended for beginners guide to coiling the KayFun 3.1? Not bothered with sub ohms btw.
     
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    I ended up deleting the video since it came out rather shitty. If you need one, I'll try to make one tonite or Sunday. I started out with the one PBusardo made, so that should work out alright for you.
     
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    No worries mate just thought you had a vid already. I'll have a look for the PB one. Is doing the 3.1 or lite or Russian or is it all the same. Sorry for my ignorance.
     
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    I'm really enjoying my kayfun and don't know if I just got lucky but have had no problems whatsoever with leaking. (touch wood) After Mack's leaking problems I was thinking they might be temperamental in terms of cotton amount and placement.

    I copied beardy's youtube vid as best I could and after re wicking a couple of times and filling the tank using the top fill method covering the air hole and once not bothering to cover the air hole it is still working well.

    My only dislike it the dam top cap is quite difficult to undo with the o'ring holding it and there isn't much to grip onto. Mine is very tight. i guess some rubber gloves would make it easier although not practical when I'm out. Rubber bands maybe.

    Ryans post on another thread about a mini strap wrench has got me thinking. Back home you could buy small things like that to open jars and bottles. Not seen anything like them here but will have to keep my eye out.
     
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    I have had no problems after i followed instructions on top filling, so the leaking was down to me. I have been using the Kayfun for 4 weeks now and its the only think I vape, i get the ocasional seeping out the fill whole, but that only started after I tryed to use it. I now have my second 3.1 on order and a Storm A clone, both of which will be used for playing and my original Kayfun will remaine my ADV.
     

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