1. Welcome to Thailand Vapers, an English language forum for members in Thailand and the rest of Asia to talk about vaping.
    Commonly referred to as e-cigarettes, vaping is really about the use of personal vaporizers (mods) and atomizers (tanks, clearos, RBAs, RDAs, RTAs) filled with e-liquid.
    Are you looking to get started or an old hand at vaping? Everyone is welcome here so sign up today and talk vaping with us!

Kayfun or Russian

Discussion in 'Rebuildable Atomisers' started by byoung, Oct 4, 2014.

  1. ryanmacl

    ryanmacl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    1,501
    Likes Received:
    190
    Location:
    Bangkok
    The only time my chamber gets flooded is if I top fill and don't blow out the excess first. I know what your problem is though, you're using silica. The way the Kayfun draws juice is from the negative pressure created when you inhale. It draws the juice from the tank into the wick. Silica lets too much juice just flow through it, whereas cotton and rayon kind of block that a little bit. Easy enough fix, open the airhole up more to reduce the amount of negative pressure, increase the amount of silica balled up in the juice wells (or maybe try Ekowool), increase the wattage so you're vaporizing more juice, or switch to cotton/rayon. Any one of those will stop the problems you are having. I know you're dead against it, but you really should just switch off the silica. It has its uses, but the RDA's of today really aren't where it belongs. It's more suited for stuff that has the tank below the coil, not above it.

    As far as changing juice goes, why would you need to adjust the airflow for that?

    I feel for you dude, I know its frustrating trying to get the hang of everything without anyone there to help. I had to do the same thing, I didn't know anyone who messed with rebuildables when I started. Maybe you should take a drive down to Bangkok so I can show you a few things. Its only what, a 4 hour drive?
     
  2. ryanmacl

    ryanmacl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    1,501
    Likes Received:
    190
    Location:
    Bangkok
    Yeah, that'll do it. Try to keep them upside-down when you go through any major changes in elevation.
     
  3. Tibo
    Relaxed

    Tibo French Hedonist

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2014
    Messages:
    3,593
    Likes Received:
    4,228
    Location:
    Bangkok
    I flooded the Russian maybe on the first day if I recall correctly. It was my first built and the wivking was very wrong.

    I haven't adjusted the airflow since months on it.

    But if you like to do so Byoung, you'll find it very easy on the Russian 91%

    Sent from the future
     
  4. byoung
    Cloud_9

    byoung Thread Starter Upcountry Vaper

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2014
    Messages:
    619
    Likes Received:
    45
    Location:
    Pangtawai
    I referring to the flooding I get when I open the top cap to refill or adjust the tank's pressure.
     
  5. Tibo
    Relaxed

    Tibo French Hedonist

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2014
    Messages:
    3,593
    Likes Received:
    4,228
    Location:
    Bangkok
    I agree with all your points except this one.

    I go for the fill screw over the top filling system anytime.

    Top filling on the Orchid is not easy to master imho as the threads of the pyrex tank are weak. Scratchy, remind you of something? ^^

    I don't feel the need to upgrade to the v2 just for the filling system but that is something I would habe prefer to have on mine at first.



    Sent from the future
     
  6. ryanmacl

    ryanmacl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    1,501
    Likes Received:
    190
    Location:
    Bangkok
    You guys see the fill port on the Russian 2.0? That is a fill port I would actually use.
     
  7. Scratchy
    Lurking

    Scratchy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2014
    Messages:
    2,501
    Likes Received:
    2,873
    That's right...another difference with the Russian 91 vs kayfun lite plus with former having the airflow adjust on the side....hadn't thought about that...probably an indication of how little I turn to adjusting airflow once I have it set how I like.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Yup.....that threading can be a pain to make sure it catches sometimes. The last few times though I have gotten much better at it! Oh and the V2 with bottom port is a very welcome change!
     
  8. Tibo
    Relaxed

    Tibo French Hedonist

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2014
    Messages:
    3,593
    Likes Received:
    4,228
    Location:
    Bangkok
    I haven't. You got some pic? I only find the 91% on Google :/

    Sent from the future
     
  9. byoung
    Cloud_9

    byoung Thread Starter Upcountry Vaper

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2014
    Messages:
    619
    Likes Received:
    45
    Location:
    Pangtawai
    The tanks do not flood while in use...just when removing the top cap. I can blow most of that out, but to get it vaping bang on I find opening the airflow a bit for a few vapes is a good solution.

    I have actually had more problems with not enough juice flow, using silica. I have to be very careful with the wick placement or I'll get dry hits. I have that one down now, so no problems with juice flow at all.

    I find different juices vape best with different airflow settings. Also, I think, but I'm not sure, that a difference in the ohms of the coil will change how the airflow needs to be set, but at this point that is just speculation on my part.

    Its a 6 hour bus ride to and from BKK, but I really appreciate the kind offer. :)
     
  10. Scratchy
    Lurking

    Scratchy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2014
    Messages:
    2,501
    Likes Received:
    2,873
    Looks really nice and the adjustable up to 3.0 mm airflow opening.
     
  11. ryanmacl

    ryanmacl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    1,501
    Likes Received:
    190
    Location:
    Bangkok
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 10, 2014
  12. ryanmacl

    ryanmacl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    1,501
    Likes Received:
    190
    Location:
    Bangkok
    That's the 91%, not the 2.0.
     
  13. Scratchy
    Lurking

    Scratchy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2014
    Messages:
    2,501
    Likes Received:
    2,873
    Hmm....you are filling using top cap method? If so, cover the air hole during that process and you should be OK most of the time....well also if you do the partial screw on and tip upside down while still covering then finish tightening it while upside down. If you don't do like that then I would fully expect some flooding. If filling from top, have you ever tried using the fill port? Works great for me and you can actually get more juice in that way.

    Despite all sorts of build and juice combinations I really never have to change the airflow but then again I often like mine about as wide open as it can be and there's no changing that once you are already there. Not always the case though as I have some that feel too open and I will close it down some but not usually the case with Kayfuns or the Russian 91.

    - - - Updated - - -

    No, just saw a vid on the 2.0 it has an up to 3.0 mm opening
     
  14. Tibo
    Relaxed

    Tibo French Hedonist

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2014
    Messages:
    3,593
    Likes Received:
    4,228
    Location:
    Bangkok
    Things got serious in the vaping world with that video ! Awesome !

    Thanks Ryanmacl for the vid, so that is indeed the V2. PBusardo has a video where he breaks it. It is the Russian V2, not the Russian 91% V2 as I misunderstood.

    This atty is bigger than the 91% (and so was the Russian).

    This fill hole is spot on, that is an improvement ! Hats off to them :)
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 10, 2014
  15. byoung
    Cloud_9

    byoung Thread Starter Upcountry Vaper

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2014
    Messages:
    619
    Likes Received:
    45
    Location:
    Pangtawai
    Yes I fill with the top cap method and do cover the air holes. The Lite+ usually behaves, but not always. The Mini V2.1 ES almost always floods. But even if they do not flood to the point of juice spilling out the air hole, they almost always gurgle a bit, and I can quickly clear that by opening up the airflow and giving it a few hits. If its being real temperamental, I will also bump the watts up a little, but that is rarely ever needed.

    I don't vape with any atty wide open. I suspect that has to do with the ohms and whats you are vaping at, the juice you are using and so on. That's what makes discussions like this so difficult, because there are so many variables in play. What one individual is doing may make what they have to say irrelevant to my situation. For example, someone vaping sub ohm and high watts, with a particular juice formula that is completely different than mine is not going to have the same experiences or preferences that I do vaping at 2 ohms and 8 watts with a completely different juice formula.
     

Share This Page