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Discussion in 'Rebuildable Atomisers' started by Pipcon, Mar 4, 2014.

  1. ryanmacl

    ryanmacl Well-Known Member

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    Looking sharp, I know you're loving that vapor too. I have to bump down to my 12mg juice when I use that thing.
     
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    Nice - great shots!

    :very good:
     
  3. pommyb

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    Never a truer word spoken Ryan. I have some 18 and 12mg juice I really like, and decided to try it on the dripper. 3 draws and I'm cactus. :rolling laugh: Better nic hit than ANY analogue hit I had in 35 years. Short draws and few and far between I think.

    Have to say I am a bit amazed at one thing though. The big difference in heating time between a mech and a vtr at 15W. I use the VTR for a build platform, as it is just the right height for me on the table, and when I fire a dual coil build 0.8 ohm, it takes around 4 seconds to heat the coil to the hottest it will get. On the mech it takes less than a second and burns hotter. Now I understand the basic physics of this, but was very surprised at the huge difference. It even heats faster than a 1ohm single coil. - Both 28g Kanthal btw.

    Just a point I thought worth mentioning. No surprise to many I'm sure but I thought worth it for those like me, assuming I'm not the only one of course :rolling laugh:, that didn't realise there was such a large time lag and cooler burn.
     
  4. ryanmacl

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    Not really a fair comparison, you're firing at over 20 watts on your mech with a full battery and a .8 ohm coil. But yeah, crazy, which is why I moved away from the Chinese stuff. DNA on the way, and my Lernaia goes up to 22 watts, and you really need that extra oomph when you're running more coils. No way I'd vape that thing all day, I'd be bumping into stuff from all the fog it puts out, but its a hell of a fun evening when I use it. No short draws for me either, I'm taking full pulls for like 10 seconds each, smooth as butter. Maybe next time you redo the coils throw an extra wrap or 2 on each one, tone it down a bit for you. Now that I've got my stuff from Chemipan I might try some quad coils on there and mix up some 6 or 9 mg 100% VG.
     
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    Comparison of chalk and cheese, I know. But still something I was a little surprised at.

    As for the juice, I'm just going to get it out in a kayfun instead. Haven't refilled the wells on the origen yet after nearly 2 hours. LOL

    Not a harsh hit at all though, bloody beautiful in fact. I'm the same as you with the Chemipan gear. Bought some extra last weekend when I was in Bangkok, too much but what the hell. I seem to get more vapour from it than the same PG/VG in a premixed juice. May be wishful thinking though.

    Sticking with getting the dual coils right first before I do anything else on a dripper. then it's time for a bit more experimentation in building, although I may get a different dripper for this, a Helios comes to mind for ease of build.
     
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    Well it took a while. After trying to build the first coil, I found that I needed some additional things:

    1. Magnifying glass- couldn't see for lookin'. Those coils are smaller than I expected
    2. Torch - after burning my finger on the lighter 3 times I almost threw it at the wall!
    3. New brighter drill bit - only had black ones - see 1.
    4. New pair of needle nose pliers
    5. New light - see 1.
    6. More care - there is blood on that towel. This wire is as bad as guitar strings!!

    :rolling laugh:

    Anyway, first real try with all the aforementioned bits and pieces and this is what I got.
    Not pretty but sort of works. I can get clouds but only if I deep chest hit the bloody thing. Otherwise it's wimpy. Maybe I need to put more cotton in those wells.

    Achieved a 1.2 ohm dual coil build.

    :very good:

    Can't say I'm real impressed yet. Need to refill the thing after a couple tokes. Hopefully when the Russian arrives I will have a bit more (k)fun.


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    i feel your pain :rolling laugh::rolling laugh:
     
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    Already sent this once, but it seems to have disappeared. I know the internet is plating gams.

    Anyway. To get a longer time between drips, I have less cotton in the wells, allowing more juice in there instead. I manage to get about 7 - 10 -ish full draws on mine before it starts to taste a little harsh and needs refilling. Also maybe try not to have such a wide area of the coil covered by the wick coming down over the top? This allows for more surface area of the coil to release vapor in to the chamber. Finally, and I am surre you are already doing this, but anyway, Line the airholes up with the coils and make sure the coils are high enough so that the air flows directly on to the coil as well.

    Might help, might not. All trial and error I'm afraid.
     
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    Pipcon Thread Starter Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the tips Pommyb. It all helps.

    Sounds like good advice. :very good:

    This is really all in preparation / practice waiting on the arrival of the Russian. I can't see myself dripping a great deal. Too much friggin around.

    Anyway, cheers.:cheers2:
     
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    Get it right on this and the Russian will be a walk in teh park. I feel my Kayfun, same design as the Russian of course, is much easier to build. :grin:
     
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    This is currently my fear of stepping into the dripping game. The pros say it's the best thing but it's the extra messing about and with a clearo I know the hit is consistent every time. I'm probably too lazy also. probably a no pain no gain type of thing. ....
     
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    In the "old days" when the only choices you had were vivi nova or CE4 and stuff like that, if you wanted the best vape (that came closest to replicating a cigarette) it was dripping. For low ohm stuff, for chain vaping--those tanks just could not keep up. These days, with the development of the "fancy tanks" like the Kayfun, Taifun, nautilus, etc...you don't "have" to drip. These tanks are coming pretty close to the feel of direct dripping.
     
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    Makes sense. I tend to chain vape as the alcohol hits. First for me I bent an iclear 16. The 510 connection and coil post stayed straight but the plastic tank took a bend from the bottom. It was pretty hot for a long time and maxing out the timer many times on the vape.

    Butterscotch to blame and I now have no more. :)
     
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    Now I have a question regarding dripping.

    I'm running a 0.76 dual micro coil 28g and managing to heat up the RDA and drip tip a tad too much. :hot::hot:

    This in turn is heating the Vape too much and that is something I don't particularly enjoy.

    Raising ohms and a longer drip tip are 2 solutions to this a as well as going to a single coil. Any other things I can try?

    What about a wide bore drip tip? (Although this won't solve the hot drip tip problem.)

    Ideas?
     
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    Pipcon Thread Starter Well-Known Member

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    Well the Russian arrived about a week ago and tonight is the first chance I've had to try a build!

    So after 2 hours of trial and error I have a successful build.

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    Sweet.

    I only managed a 1.8 ohm coil but better than nothing!

    It took me an hour to realise that the post and the adjutment screw are two separate entities. So I couldn't get the damn thing to fire without the coil deck spinning around every time I adjusted it.

    Anyway, I am now happily vaping and enjoying immensely.

    :)



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