*NEW* Very heart broken with the price of cigarette...

Do any of the vendors on this site carry the Kanger sub box mini? If so could you give me a shout? Thanks.

 

My thoughts:
-buying any e-cig looking as e-cig nowadays is a huge mistake. Endura T18 or even T22 would be good only as substitute/backup device. That statement is valid if you were a real smoker, not a lady with Esse-menthol in her purse. Variable wattage mode is "a must", and AFAIK it's only available in box modes, isn't it?

 

I disagree, a smoker wanting to make the switch can be totally happy with an Endura setup, not everyone is willing to get into complicated setups where you have to change wattage, temperature or even look at ohms law.

I personally used eGo type models for well over a year when I switched and was perfectly happy, of course it became a hobby and I am more than happy with my box mods and whatnot now, but if I had something that was performing as good as the Endura kit when I started vaping it would have been only joy with no pain ... Hell, I even thought the VW batteries back then (owned a few) were just a shiny gadget with no real difference in use.

The question is and should always be : what is your goal by picking up vaping?

Do you want to switch to an healthier alternative to stinkies or are you into something else?

Take a step back to when you were a smoker, did you really care if your cigarettes came with something additional or you just bought them out of habit / needs?

If the goal is to switch to an healthier alternative any decent starter kit can get you off the stinkies in a matter of weeks, then it is up to you to decide if you want to jump on the train of mods, RTAs/RBAs etc...

Thus said, what I posted ealrier about dual batteries mods still applies, it should not be given to any newbie vaper and it is far better in my humble opinion to start with something simple that works before deciding on purchasing a shiny mod with plenty of functions.

 

Absolutely agree with @lordofthedread regarding the VTC Mini. The Subox Mini kit worked great, getting me off stinkies. The mod is solid and comfortable to hold. But.. for the price, the VTC just looks and feels quality, especially in gunmetal grey. The display is the best I've seen on a mod. The finish is tough, 50+ tank changes with no marks on the top. A cat knocked it off a table onto the granite floor, and it has the tiniest chip on a corner of the battery door, (condom on order)!
I much prefer the flavour from the Nautilus Mini, and my Fakebukis over stock Kanger, but the subtanks have been great for my attempts at re wicking/coil building using an old pair of organic cotton boxers and odd bits of cable, (strip the plastic off first).

 

The main difference between pen-style ecigs and boxes is the first one only grants you one type of vaping, MTL low power. If that suits you then perfect, but what if not - then all the chances are that person will disappoint in vaping at all. Have many friends who don't believe in vaping or don't like it simply because they already tried it. With a similar unit, like eGo pen-style something, and were totally disappointed.
And what do we have if we take a box? A variety. We don't actually care about all those features it offers yet but different coils at different power - it covers mostly all types of ppl needs. Let the one after trying all modes will find that simple pen ecig will be enough for him - to downgrade it's quite easy, but if someone was born as cloudchaser - he'll get that understanding right from the start.
What I'm trying to say - as I stated above, I know a lot of ppl who tried simplified ecigs and quit vaping, I know a lot of ppl who bought boxes and vape, I don't know nor heard anyone who bought a box mode and later quit (there comes the smiley which is yet restricted for me I suppose).

 

OK so a nice simple eleaf 20W then. I will always recommend to a new vaper to buy a bog standard VW mod, with minimum bells and whistles, 15-50W.

A lot of new capers want to just try it and see what they think. I say up to 50W or so to give room to adapt. Even then most of the people I speak to are scared of that as it is too complicated. One guy I know has been on ego pens since he started and WILL NOT change to even the simplest VW mod. Not because he likes it but because it is simple. If they really want to try something else first then fine no problem, but I won't recommend TC or anything even a little bit complicated otherwise.

 

It is true that the Endura kit is more for MTL but that's what 99.99% of smokers are used to anyway, some other kits like the eGo One will satisfy your airflow needs even if you like to take long hits on your e-cig.

I personally know a lot of people who were not appealed to box mods for many reasons (too complicated, too big, too heavy....) and are perfectly happy even after a few month with a simpler kit.

I know a lot of people who gave up on vaping because they lack willpower tho, and no matter what model they will try it will work ONLY when they have decided it is time for a switch.

I personally switched because I was afraid of health issues before everything and my health has improved hugely since I switched. Most smokers fail to understand (or even more don't want to face the truth) that 1 on 2 smokers are actually dying as a result, this is a medical fact not something to scare smokers off by some anti-smokers group

 

Personally, I'm excited for the release of the Smok Stick One Plus. I think something like this would suit the OP well. It looks sleek and compact like a mech mod but has 3.5ml juice well, some protections built in (including the ability to turn it off - I feel more comfortable with 5 clicks rather than a locking ring), usb charge, and unlike the Endura T18, it is designed for subohm vaping. K.I.S.S.

 

ecig is initially a tool to get off the cigarettes by replacing the habit with a less harmful one. the smoking aspect is there, as is the nicotine.
best bet is finding someone local and checking out the gear they have. if that doesn't work, buying local and inexpensive as this can be an expensive hobby. I'd go for something simple and lots of flavors, and most important items that are in country.

hopefully someone in BKK can help you out

 

Heyy OP herejust made an account for Tapatalk...

Thank you very much guyz for ur advices and ideas!! I have been looking at all those tank thingy with premade coil, rda rdta etc etc.. and i know this sounds crazy but i would love to go with the rdta tho i have no knowledge whatsoever... "money isnt a problem" is not what i would say but i would like to invest on it because i dun think it isnt that expensive but buying the stick one for few thousands and then moving to box mod would cost me more.. lol

So yeah been readin alot of articles abt vapes as well as many youtubers channels and now i wanna go for Griffen rdta and stick with the Joyetech Cuboid box mod.. any comment on that? For my defense this Griffen looks very easy to do maintanence and cleaning and i prefer having a tank over dropping ejuice on cotton...

Lastly to some of the questions.. i dun mind gettin stinky over cigarettes bcuz i like the smell.. the idea of me changing to vape is mainly bcuz of the cost... if the cigarette is still 98 baht then i wouldnt stop... but now that everytime i have to buy a pack... 100baht note isnt enough and i think thats wayyyy too much to spend 125baht for cigarette... especially in Thailand... if it was in Japan or Swiss i wouldnt mond spendin 440yen/ 6swiss franc (that was like 4 years ago not sure abt the current price)

So yeah... more like for cost plus the flavor!!
Oh and i really need you guys comment on 1 thing... Im plannin to buy Joyetech Cuboid in Japan for the up comming trip... and the price i check at the store is 12,000 yen... whereas in thailand online store its only like 2,400baht... and ard 32~39usd... is it more expensive because of the tax? Since the online store in thailand doesnt have to pay for the import tax blah blah?

Anyway thank you guyz and really sorry for my bad english ><

I usually hangout in coffeeshop called Kaizen at Ekamai and met few people who vapes as well would be great to know other places or cafe!

Good day and happy monday guyz ><

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I second the suggestion of the Innokin T18, or T22, and don't believe it when folks say it's only good for MTL--if you have a decent pair of lungs you can get a lung hit from it--well, i can, anyway.
I got one for a smoker a week or so back and, if anything, he thinks it might be too powerful for him, and wants to lower the amount of vapour he's getting--so, we are thinking of swapping it for an Evod [I have some around for him to try out]--not all smokers want to Chase Clouds--I've been trying to explain this in the Starter Kit thread.

 

I'm not going to make a facetious comment about waiting until the new range of cheapo stinkies is released. The main reason for vaping is stopping smoking for health reasons, whether with a primitive cig a like, or an all bells and whistles 200$ box mod. I certainly enjoyed the stinkies, but my health has vastly improved in a few months.
Moving to vaping was not totally painless for me, but it worked, and I have zero willpower.
Good luck, however you decide to do it.

 

Oh alright then, I'll take the bait- to the OP if it really is about cost then you're going to be going back to cigarettes pretty soon. Vaping sounds cheap, at least in the beginning, but you wait a while and then let us know just how much money you've really saved.

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