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Proposed Thai Laws for Vaping in Thailand

Discussion in 'General Thailand Vaping Discussion' started by glenn, Jun 11, 2016.

  1. haybilly
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    haybilly Well-Known Member

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    It seems that, these days, it's definitely like a lottery out there-- if your luck's in, you win, if not the minimum would be to 'say Goodbye' to your Vape Gear and contribute to the appropriate BIB Benevolent Fund-- at worst, well, the Swiss guy find out how bad it might get.

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  2. Siam Diesel
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    He's going to get a small fine & a slap on the wrist (my prediction)...that's what has happened to Thais who actually went to court for the same offense. The hassle is the time in jail, getting a lawyer and being involved with the TH legal system...such as it is. :)
     
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  3. colind88
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    Here is my take - Firstly bring something into the country is NOT importing it. If so you would be importing your phone, wrist watch, shaver, clothes etc every time you arrive. This is just the monkey boys %^$#ing with us as usual. So if you bought your gear overseas you have paid tax on it like your watch, camera and phone etc. Secondly, SD is spot on as usual, possession is not a crime in Thai law, selling and importing is! However, as usual the police, especially the Tessakit MOFOs are making it up as they go along. So the moral of the story is Don't vape in front of a policeman unless he is also vaping and don't say you bought your gear in Thailand. And yes Wednesdays and Sundays are good days to vape ;-). And if you really want "bake their noodle" use gear bought before 2014.
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    I do believe this Swiss guy is linked to a vaping company and he had way more than one mod on hand. That's what I heard :)
     
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    Didn't hear about the multiple mods but you are spot on with the vape company link. It was someone from StattQualm (of SQuape fame) who first posted on FB about the misfortune that befell him in our land of smiles. o_O
    Why wouldn't you say you bought your gear here...better than "importing" it (even though we don't)! :)
     
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  5. colind88
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    Because, since there is no law on possession they are using the non payment of duty as a work around - if you bought your gear in Thailand u sure as hell did not pay duty. Correct me if I am wrong but the definition of import is to bring in goods for trade or sale. So bringing in a mod for your own use is certainly not importing it. Whether or not anyone has the mental capacity to understand that here -is a whole different matter! So in my opinion saying you bought it in Thailand is an automatic "go to jail" card.
     
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    Well, I think we're buggered either way if the above holds true. If you say you bought it outside of Thailand (i.e, "imported" it), you're immediately guilty of 'illegal importation' to the BiB (who could never be accused of great mental acuity at the best of times...and they'll miss the 'imported for sale' distinction because all they see are ฿฿฿฿ signs when a mod comes into view). I'd rather take my chances with 'bought in Thailand'...you can argue that there was no illegal importation since it was already here...but you're headed into the TH legal system if you want to go down that road.

    I truly hope I'm never put into the situation of having to choose one or the other...I may parlez francais to them and watch what happens. :D
     
  7. colind88
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    Your absolutely right SD don't get caught. But the point I am making is everything you have brought with you EVER in this interpretation of the the term "import" is therefore illegal - so it can't possibly be right and it isn't. When you bring in personal items into a country you are not importing them. Importing implies sale or trade. These phukwits have redefined an English word to suit their evil intentions and it is not right!!! Based on their interpretation of "import" they could fine me for the clothes on my back (bought in England). Would you be able to argue this - NO WAY so as SD says - just don't get caught!!
     
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  8. lordofthedread
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    Make no mistake there is no winning situation for vapers in Thailand right now, and make no mistakes big tobacco has a their hands down to the elbow in it.

    As others said before just don't get caught, houses won't get raided down anytime soon AFAIK unless you are making a business out of it.
     
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    Like most of the others I believe the best thing is to never get caught. If I were ever caught I would just say it was given to me as a present. I was trying to quit smoking and someone said I should try vaping to help.

    Then it's just possession which I believe is legal with no discussion about importing or domestic purchases. You can even say you found it. Who the hell really knows where you got it. You can say anything that's not what they want to hear to nail you somehow. I would never want to get into the semantics of what is actually 'importing' or the purchase date being before 2014 or whatever.

    There's obviously no good answer until Thailand changes the current (vague, porous, amorphous) laws. I'm hoping for several internationally respected studies proving vaping is much, much safer than cigarettes so that at some point the country might finally be compelled to enter the 21st century.
     
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    That would be nice, wouldn't it! :D
     
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    This is not a public heath issue it is a money issue. I don't expect to see this change anytime soon. Things move slowly here. If it ever changes it will take years.
     
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    Oh ye of little faith...I'm trying to stay optimistic! :p
     
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    I like this one and if I ever get fingered by the BiB will use Svens defense. When they ask from whom, I will say Ms. Nok for Nakhon Nowhere (forgot her real name)




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    But surely it is the mythical "vendor" who is responsible for paying duty. I buy farang food when I'm in a city. If Villa have smuggled in a container of Marmite, am I responsible when I buy it?
     
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    Importing or even consuming Marmite outside the uk, is a crime in my opinion....serving it to others deserves capital punishment

    Same applies to Vegemite served outside of Australia

    As they always say...you either love it, or you hate it

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