Starter Kit Recommendations for New Vapers (NO 'New Poster' Posts!)

And that is also why TC, auto-coil selection, auto-mode just like a good camera, cheap pre-configured coils, not getting hands wet, etc. etc. are the future. If we want as many people as possible to be on the waggon, which seems is the only way left for vaping to "make it" into the future, then 200 W devices, ohm calculators and sports arena filling cloudz are +not+ cutting it.

 

700 watts

 

I have to agree here. Very few new vapers will give a toss about TC RBA's Ohms law or any different types of wire's that can be used. The only thing I would like to add is that if they wanted to they could get a mod capable of the basic needs they want and a little expansion for a few months time if they decide they want to go that way. But I personally would rather see a new vaper using a reliable mid price piece of kit that will last them a good while with a simple clearo tank with changeable coils. Let them decide the amount of interest they want AFTER they have decided that vaping is working for them. There is a line here that we need to not cross. and that line is where we step past price and usability limits for a new vaper. Those limits are also different for everybody when starting out.

The principle I learnt and always go by when starting something new is "KISS" Keep it smile stupid.

 

These are purely based on what I am finding popular with people wishing to quit--
Top of the Hit-list appears to be the Authentic Kanger Evod Starter Kit--must be genuine, since many of the clones are just not reliable enough.
Innokin T18, Aspire BDC/BVC [similar to a Vivi-Nova but with decent coil heads not silica wicks] Aspire Nautilus, Eleaf Basic which uses the Eleaf GS Air 2 tank [the original GS Air is also a good starter tank]
All these tanks [unless bought as a full starter kit] will need good, authentic, batteries starting at 900 mah ,some of the Evods come with 650 mah batts and these will do but 900, 1100 and 1300 mah are preferable, of course for the Evod Mega Kits and EGO One kits there are 2200 Mah batteries but these start to look a bit intimidating to new vapers.
What they want is something small, easy, reliable and fairly inexpensive to begin with--they will probably move on to more expensive devices in time.

 

I agree completely. A good suck start battery and a decent tank would make it so easy to put the cigarettes down and start vaping. Take all the "technology" out to start with. After you get used to vaping with a suck start, add a button if the user wants it. Not all vapers are hobbyists and I think sometimes we forget that. I even find myself sometimes telling people that they need this, this and this, because I need it or want it, not because they do. It's easy to forget the struggles of quiting smoking when we start concentrating on the "technology". It was much easier in the early days of vaping, you basically had no choices other than a few flavors and strengths. I don't even know why they made any strength other than 18 mg or 24 mg then. You were getting so little vapor and the nicotine transfer was so inefficient, everybody wanted the strong stuff. Because of the increase in vapor production and big inhales we have dropped the nic levels down to our level. I don't think 3 or 6 mg is enough for someone coming straight off stinkies. Since the advent of smoking tobacco the only "technology" is how you set it on fire. We need to keep this in mind for the beginners.

 

Hehehe. I didn't even see what it said. I had my GF blabbing in my ear while 3 different people tried to work out a pair of bloody SPEAKER for a computer. The meeting of the minds it wasn't. Thanks SD

 

I've found over the last few months that box mods seem to intimidate smokers. If I've got my Aspire Premium with mini Nautilus, or Emow Mega kit, they are far more likely to ask about it and want a try (I carry a spare drip tip for this). And no screen, so I'm not prompted to talk about the electronics too much. I stick to saying it works like an electric kettle, or incandescent light bulb.
The Emow Mega is back in favour when I go for a few beers. The nic craving may have gone, but out for a drink I always need something in my hand to play with, and take the odd tight stinkie-type puff.

 

I myself was a newby only few months ago. I started last September with an Ego One XL.

About 2 weeks later I was tired of it. I was starting to think there must be more, nothing really felt like it fits right, I am missing something. So without any clue I bought the eVic VTC Mini (which I do think is a pretty elaborate device for a beginner). I put the Ti coil in, stuck it to the recommended 235 C and 30 W - and I was blown away by the flavour that I got.

That's what attracted me, nothing else: It tasted so delicious, so much better than cigarettes. If that what the eGo One did was all, I probably would have not sticked with vaping.

I recommend everyone new to vaping to skip that outdated stuff and buying a TC device. You may start in the simplest power mode but then better quickly learn using TC. There are devices in the market that work right away well, and which have a short learning curve. You will likely not get that performance and satisfaction from a eGo One alike.

(Note: Better not buy the eGo One anyway, it's button failure problem is posted all over the internet)

You are always the same core group. So let me disagree once again, as the only lonely person.

PS: I don't mind you address me direcyly, I can take it.

 

Tbh if I had gone straight to TC I seriously doubt that I would have quit analogues at all. The tech just isn't consistent enough. Also the majority of vapers are just wanting simple set ups to get their nic fix and get off the smokes and then these as well. They are not looking at this as a hobby. They also tend not to join forums, look yes, but not perticipate as they only want minimum info. Look at the number of active users you see on here and then the total number of members. The difference are the non techy vapers or the ones that researched and left.

I still believe a recommendation that works and does what the new vaper wants at that time is the way to go. Any more will potentially put them off or confuse them.

 

You guys are about 6 months back, which is a long in terms of China production speed

 

In my time vaping I have found basically 2 types of advice are given.

The information you want and

The things that are an individual preference and so must be better for everyone

Unfortunately the latter is more prevalent than the former