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Suggestion about Mechanical Mod

Discussion in 'General Thailand Vaping Discussion' started by nornnoi, Sep 11, 2014.

  1. Talen
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    I would go to another shop because they were clearly steering you towards what they wanted to see you buy...you don't know anything about re-building and or mechanical mods and you seriously should not be buying one at this time. You need a decent regulated device that is easy to use with a clearo tank such as a nautilus. Go to another shop and tell them you would like to look at something along the lines of an MVP...it's cheap. its extremely easy to use and it's a workhorse, best of all it will do exactly what you need it to do.
     
  2. Siam Diesel
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    Nornoi, I'd suggest a couple of steps for your equipment purchase:

    Step 1 - Buy a regulated mod like an Innokin MVP 2.0 (link: MVP V2.0) and/or an iTaste VV 3.0 (link: iTaste VV V3.0)...or both...you can't go wrong with either. The MVP has a longer battery life and the iTaste VV is perfect for stealth vaping (I used to own both). To top these, buy an Aspire Nautilus tank (aka clearomizer) and/or a Mini-Nautilus tank plus 5 replacement BVC coils (don't buy the BDC coils). The coils receive the electricity from the battery, heat up and vaporize the e-juice. This setup will have you vaping happily in a very short time once you find a juice or 2 that you like. It will provide you with a far superior vaping experience than you're experiencing now (unless you have an Ovale eVic Supreme).

    Step 2 - Then, buy an RBA (Rebuildable Atomizer) or an RDA (Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer). Kayfuns fall into this category. RDA's are tanks but you have to make your own coils...it's a learning process, believe me. To do this, you'll need Kantal A1 wire (there are also other wire choices), a wicking material (cotton, rayon, wire mesh, etc.), and an ohm meter for checking the resistance of your coil. You can use the MVP 2.0 to vape with these also. Then you can buy a mechanical mod...there's no regulation of the current or wattage...you get the power that the battery is capable of putting out (i.e., you can't adjust the voltage or the wattage of your vape like you can with a regulated mod). The adjustment comes through changing the resistance of your coils (Ohm's law governs this process).

    Of course, you can just jump right in, buy an RDA, a mechanical mod (and some good batteries & battery charger...don't scrimp here) and spend the rest of your vacation learning how to wrap coils, etc.

    Welcome to the wonderful world of vaping!
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    Not sure where you are in LA but there's bound to be an Innokin dealer near you: Innokin Store Locator

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    This Aspire Kit wouldn't be a bad way to get started either: Aspire Premium Kit
    Here's the Aspire store locater link: Aspire Business Partners USA
    They've got to be widely available...Aspire products are very popular.

    If you can link up with Submaniac, I know he'll help you get something good.
     
  3. nornnoi

    nornnoi Thread Starter New Member

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    Thank you Talen for suggestion, I will go to look for other shop and look around of what do they have.

    Thank you Siam Diesel, The Itaste v3 look so comfortable in hand, it a good shape and size. I will put one attention on it. Just small question, Is the Itaste v3 can use with kayfun?

    Oh I just search more about the box that I mention on the post before. It's name HANA (seem like japanese av girl. lol) Do you guy know about it? Seem like I can adjust the power but look really hard for beginner like me.

    I would probably looking for the best one but seem like I fall in love with mechanical mod and aspire nautilus or kayfun. The taste of the juice when I vape is awesome. If I choose kayfun, may be I need more advice about it. since ,I really suck with electronic things. Please help me all f you are my instructors. ^^

    Thank you so much every one for all of information, I feel so warm and safe in this community.
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  4. Rick O-Shea

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    A Hana mod would be great for you I think (I'd buy a clone, much cheaper) and would be a useful device to own for you for the foreseeable future.
    Like most people are recommending in your current situation, I'd also go for a Nautilus and some coils, then when you get back here and have some spare time you can check out YouTube videos on how to build coils and mechanical mod battery safety and spend a little more to get a nice mechanical mod with a Kayfun or whatever RBA that takes your fancy.
     
  5. Siam Diesel
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    It can as long as the Kayfun coil isn't in the low ohm range (i.e., less than about 1.4 ohms). I tried to Google the lowest resistance coil that can be used on this but couldn't find it quickly. Given the small size of the iTaste VV, a 22mm Kayfun will look a bit odd on top of it. Remember, it's only an 800 mAh battery...it's perfect for walking around with but the battery will need to be recharged more often than the MVP, which has 3x the battery capacity (or plugged into a USB port and vaped while charging).

    Hana Modz are made in the US...they're good kit and are controlled by an Evolv DNA30 chip. Personally, I prefer the form factor of the Vapor Shark rDNA...also made in the US and controlled by an Evolv DNA 30 chipset. Either are great mods...depends on which one you like better as they operate exactly the same. Costwise, the Hana is ~$250 while the VS is ~$190.

    Bear in mind that the Innokin & Aspire (Nautilus) gear is made in China and readily available from 3Avape once you return to Thailand. I'd suggest only buying enough to keep you vaping until you get back here and can stock up. If you want to splurge, then by all means grab a VS rDNA or a Hana Modz. They're much more difficult (and expensive) to get in Thailand.

    Keep us posted on what you decide to do.

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    On here, we often have different opinions on the best vaping gear...but one thing we always agree on is that getting and staying off cigarettes is the ultimate goal. Any equipment that helps you do that can only be good!
     
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    Since your just beginning and not familiar with a lot of the terms and options available, I would recommend as mentioned earlier, that you go with an MVP 2 or the iTaste VV3 and they are not expensive compared to many options. They are in many many shops and should be easy to find and that removes frustration and confusion right from the start. Personally, between the two I would get the MVP 2 for better battery life. Also agree with the recommendations to get a Nautilus and or Nautilus Mini tank with a 5 set package of BVC coils. If any shop is worth your business, they should very easily show you how to assemble the Nautilus tanks and coils and also how to fill with juice and maintain it working well. All the shops I visited when back in the States had really great employees who would not hesitate doing that for you. Sounds like the other shop though may have been trying to take advantage of you some.

    After you get comfortable with those devices and learn more about vaping, mechanical devices, building coils, wicking etc. then you will feel so much more comfortable in taking the next step with something more powerful, better built and with a different vaping style/experience such as a mechanical or more powerful regulated device together with a Kayfun or RDA (dripper).

    Lots of good advice from others here so I mostly just wanted to reinforce it. Cheers!
     
  7. Submaniac
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    Hehehe, you have very good taste. That one is the limited edition nemesis legion in naval brass.

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    For a brass mod, you will have to polish it regularly to keep it shiny. Other than that mods are fairly easy to maintain. I just use a white rubber eraser to clean the contacts every now and then to make sure the electricity flows naturally.
     
  8. nornnoi

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    Thank you SiamDeisel, Now i start to do research about HANA and Vaporshark. It look comfortable and easy to put in the pocket. I still need more time to learn about the DNA and will looking for one of mechanical mod. Just small question, Is there any different between Authentic mod and Clones mod? it look so similar and I can not tell any different.

    Thank you Scratchy, I ask them about the nautilus, the price is around $35 and the pack of coil is $15. Is that normal price? I also looking for MVP2 or Itaste vv3 but it seem like out of stock. Probably I should get it by online. All of the employee at the vapeshop that I visit are so nice. They willing to help and let me try their juices as much as I want. I got some like vermillion rivers, space jams. If I have enough budget, I will get kayfun too. ^^

    Thank you sub maniac, nemesis legion in naval brass look superb and expensive. lol how about the performance? same like other brand?
     
  9. cmbrstefan

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    Wish I could be in your place now could walk into places and try juice. He he. But in Thailand there is no testing "you open and you buy like or not". Regarding buying online. Keep in mind it will take a wile.and to do it in Thailand it can take longer. Authentic mod or clone mods I don't have the experience yet. But someone on the forum will be able to answer you the question.
     
  10. Submaniac
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    Well the nemesis legion I got because I was on the facebook Nemesis owner's group, and the manufacturer did a special run for us and it's only limited to 300 made. So the price is more for rarity, not necessarily performance. The nemesis is a popular mechanical mod design and why it is popular is that the nemesis has a very low voltage drop/volt loss. Alot of other manufacturers have subsequently come out with mods that also have low volt drop so it is not as special as it used to be.

    But if you are on a tight budget a good clone performs near the original. You won't be getting as good fit or finish or engravings, but in terms of functionality it will work very close. I would prefer to buy the originals on the mods I care about. I mean you can't really "treasure" a fake Rolex, a fake Omega, but the fakes will keep nearly as good time as a real one. There are certain clone manufacturers better than others like EH Pro, HCigar, and Infinite make very good high quality clones.
     
  11. Siam Diesel
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    You would normally expect the authentic mech mod to have a higher quality fit & finish than the corresponding clone...but the clone will be cheaper, sometimes significantly so. Since the clones are made in China, I'd suggest waiting until you get back here if you're going to buy one. If you want to get an authentic mod, it wouldn't hurt to touch base with Submaniac...he owns several authentic mech mods and would be able to help you. I don't have any mech mods, just ProVari's and VS DNA/rDNA's.

    $35 is the retail price for a Nautilus...at 3Avape.com, you can pick one up for $25, which includes 4 BVC colls. For replacement BVC coils (don't buy the older BDC coils), $15 is about right in a vape shop...they're also a few bucks cheaper on-line.

    A genuine SvoeMesto Kayfun will set you back around $100, so if you're being quoted a price that's significantly less, chances are that it's a clone (you should ask if you're not sure). There's nothing wrong with a clone...there are some very good ones from what I've read on here. But the clones are made in China while a real SM Kayfun is made in Germany. You should also be aware that both the original Kayfun and the clones come with a polycarbonate tank section (the window part) that certain juices can actually melt. Somewhere on ECF is a thread that lists the juices that can melt plastic tanks.
     
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    The pricing of the Nautilus and the BVC coils sounds about right considering it's not online and you do not have to pay any shipping or waiting time. Just make sure they are BVC - do not buy the BDC coils. The MVP 2 is available in many stores and very many online too. If you do not find it locally in stores there then maybe you can find a different good option for you. You could look at other devices that are in your price range, feel good in your hand and look good to you. Then I would get the names of what you liked and then go online or even let us know here what you liked and maybe some of us can make a recommendation.

    It sounds like you are looking at both a regulated mod and a mechanical. The Vapor Shark, MVP 2, VV 3 and Hana Mod (or Hana clone) are examples of regulated and the Nemesis an example of a Mechanical. There are so very many devices out there and many of them can work excellently. Because of this my recommendations on a mechanical are to stay in your budget range first, then, if you can try in a shop, hold the devices in your hand and feel what it is like pressing the fire button - Does the mod feel comfortable and does pressing the button feel good and smooth and something you can repeat many times and feel comfortable?

    There can definitely be differences between clones and originals. The difference in quality can be noticeable or even extremely small and not noticeable. Again, I think the most important thing is you like the feel, the look, it is comfortable to use and it does not feel poorly-made. Then maybe do what I recommended before and get the name and model of what you liked and go online to see what people say about it. One thing that is helpful is getting the name of the manufacturer of the mod or the clone. There can be differences between one clone manufacturer's quality compared to a different one.

    Finally, if it is in your budget for a regulated mod, I think the Vaporshark DNA 30 and the larger rDNA models are extremely good devices and a very good recommendation by Siam Diesel and others here.
     
  13. nornnoi

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    Hi cmbrstefan, yes i almost try like 40 juices different taste on these 2 days. haha

    Thank you again Vape diesel and scratchy. Finally, I decide to order Vaporshark Rdna and nautilus tank follow you guys suggestion. :very good:

    I still looking for one mechanical mod though but may be just the cheapest one.

    I ask about the mechanical mod from employees of vapor shop. They mention about the brand name "King" , " Chiyou" , "Nemesis" are good but hard to find. T_T

    Dear Submaniac, have you ever hear about mankos mod? I see one of customer in vapeshop carry today such a luxury and beautiful. He said he bought like $400 and super hard to get. DAMN is that real for the price?


    Ps. I extend my vacation from 5 days to 10 days for vaporshark lol. :grin:
     
  14. Siam Diesel
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    :congratulations: :congratulations:
    You'll be glad you did...it's a great mod and a wonderful tank. Hope you ordered a skin to protect that bad boy, too.

    Nice...have an In-N-Out Burger "Double Double Animal Style" with fries for me...best burger on the planet for my money!
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  15. cmbrstefan

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    Are you in Thailand bangkok on the 18th october.? Maybe you can join the vape meet and we could share and help with questions.
     

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