Why I cut my Singapore trip short

True that. And yup, following rules is the same everywhere, people don't like to be restricted, a small but nevertheless important thing called freedom gets interrupted, and not everyone is obliged to believe that massive fines are fair for chewing gum etc, even if the government thinks it is ...

Just try taking guns away from American pro-gun bunch, and see how far you get in that argument. I did, and not far, it's unconstitutional, apparently, everyone should have an ak47 in the house, just in case someone might break in

 

You are right. We can discuss about visiting Singapore without politics.

 

I'm only in Changi for 6 hours now, and not taking vape gear with me.

Next trip will likely be Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia, Malaysia, phillipenes etc, and will do research to find the most friendly vape destination prior to booking.

 

Malaysia or the Philippines are probably your safest bet, vape~wise. Cambodia banned e-cig a few years back I think.

 

I have to say wrt Singapores policies the last 2-3 decades and the evolution in the right direction as a Bona fide developed nation - with more rights now and relative freedoms in certain controlled areas to fit in with the western culture but trying to keep and Instill traditional agent values has been encouraging ...

Don't forget in the 80s they weren't allowing citizens to have more than 2 kids - in the 70s when my dad would visit - they frowned upon men with long hair and u had to stand at back of any q is u had long - hippy hair ... They move incredibly fast and planned very well since govt is truly non corrupt and the best are streamed into government -

And lately there have been opposition parties ( yes sg is a democratic country but up until 2000? There really was one main party and some 2-3 joker parties just to show they have elections -
I think now the younger educated and well travelled cosmopolitan citizens are paying attention and filtering their knowledge down - and meetings with the lawmakers/ MPs is finally starting to get interesting - no longer are the pple only seeking help from elected official about petty matters like neighbor issue or requests for assistance for personal matters as it embarrassingly hS been ongoing way too long -

Singapore is a one of a kind shining example of Wat can be achieved and its small size has been a handicap that has now been its huge advantage - why have banks and finance and telecoms and mnc have headquarters in sg for all of asia ... SECURITY - no coup gonna happen - strikes are jail-able offences - the sg dollar is great and inflation non existent - interest rates kept low -

I'm rambling but it is truly fascinating

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I'm also having difficulty getting my head around the second amendment - granted I'm not American in fact most I know Is mainly from 'leftist' media - but when they drafted the constitution - wasn't it about being able to have militiA and protect urself and nation mainly from foreign powers - the redcoats a very recent memory of ur founding fathers - I don't think it was to
Protect ur house or urself or ur wife from another criminal also carrying a gun - enshrines is the correct word - the way pple enshrine all manner of dated religious beliefs - what I don't understand is the fervor abt the second amendment - and considering ALL data and tragedies and ur most respected president views - can amend amendment as no government is planning to suppress the population with guns - and if they do want to - ur handgun will not make a dent obviously ... I'd like to hear the views of both sides genuine

 

I think that during the last elections Singaporeans did indeed have the real chance to change for the first time in 50 years. The vast majority did decide not to. Insofar you can call it a democracy. I do indeed think it is a sort of democracy. They do listen very carefully to people, often, sometimes more so than western governments.

There are so many false information circulating in the world about S'pore, and pre-justice. For example it is not correct one can't chew chewing gum or one will be caned for it. You can't sell it. Whrigleys tried for more than a decade to convince the government otherwise. But as I said before, everybody who wants chewing gum knows where to get it. If you chew it, who cares. As long as you don't do it into the face of the chief police president or rape Mr. Lee's dog nobody cares. I hope that one day not too far into the future the same approach may be possile regarding vaping.

 

Thanks, Malaysia recently brought some bans I heard. Phillipenes is "safest" bet, but long flight to Manila from BKK.

Vietnam I quite like as only a short flight, but not free of oppression there either.



Edit: post edited.

 

yo, delete my 1. paragraph.

 

TVM

 

I totally agree also with peter - in fact you can chew gum in front of police captain - as the law is against selling gum -

I'm very afraid of vaping laws - let's see Wat the usa state dept of tobacco alcohol and firearms do -

( I think legislation abt what is and isn't best for civil society is the discussion topic - Thus my comment ...)

 

SG was my first stop in Asia almost 16 years ago. Was "meh" about it then and after having lived in and visited other countries in the region, even more "meh" about it now. I had to go there for business over the years and whenever I could, pushed it off to others. Just don't particularly like the place but not faulting those that do. I've certainly met a good number of great people from there.

 

As long as the discussion stays mostly on topic and doesn't devolve into personal attacks, disrespect or the like, there's nothing wrong with sharing experiences and opinions on said topic. Do understand someone can have sensitivities in reading something they do not personally believe in or agree with. Just part of the online social experience as I see it. Certainly have run across a lot of anti-American sentiments...no skin off my nose and I'm often enough in agreement!