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WISMEC Reuleaux RX200

Discussion in 'Temperature Control board Talk' started by Rick O-Shea, Nov 26, 2015.

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    I definitely love the battery life, quality of build too....I have no doubts that for standard mode they work very well and I would wholeheartedly recommend it for anyone not doing TC. Because I do TC almost exclusively, I wish I had their DNA200 model as I am absolutely certain I'd like the experience with that much-much more than the RX200.
     
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    Can you swap the board if you find a good bargain on a DNA200 ? I haven't try to open it. Or just sell it here, I doubt it will last long in the For Sale section :)
     
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    I think you can but I'm afraid I'd mess it up. I think it may require some dremeling and soldering.

    As long as I am not swapping attys and have the TCR dialed-in, the mod, and the others I mentioned, are just fine and worth keeping. I just dont like having to take the time with trial and error to dial things in whenever I do a swap or rebuild.
     
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    The screen cutouts are different between the RX200 and DNA200. I would imagine there are some other internal differences as well. I am guessing the DNA200 is a bigger board the the Joyetech board in the RX200.
     
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    The one thing I don't get...these values you mention are only that, values, obviously the different manufactures have chosen different values and measured the temps differently . The true temp is not monitored or known so as far as I can tell it's a 'best guess'.

    Without a temp sensor in the atty there is no way of knowing what the actual temp is, or of knowing what temp you prefer...?

    Just my two satangs
     
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    The different manufacturers should be using values that match the default TCR values for each type of material. The problem is that Joyetech/Wismec do not accurately do so, at least in my experience with Ni200 and Ti. Well, that's probably not exactly right. Actually, they may be referencing those values in whatever calculations they have but they are not properly translating them into actual and accurate working temps. To compound things, when one uses a custom TCR set to the material default, in most cases it also does not provide an accurate temp.

    Many mods do provide quite accurate temps relative to the setting made on the mod. For example, the DNA200. Recently saw a test probe analysis recently and the average difference between set temp and actual was like 4 degrees across different material types. Worst was like 7 or 8 F. I forget. Awesome and I can trust that when I use that mod the temp I am vaping is closely approximating the temp I have set. Take a look at DJLSB's recent SMY DNA200 review to see what I mean.

    Going further, when I vape most other TC mods set to the same temp as a DNA200, the temp can be indistinguishable or fairly similar and usually that's good enough for me. If slightly off, a quick adjustment is all that's needed. I've been vaping TC long enough that I don't need a test probe or sensor on the coil to know about where the temp is at and the cool thing with the DNA200 and most of my other mods, I do know when I set it to that value, I will be mostly spot on or pretty darn close to it. Unfortunately, that's not the case with any of the 3 different Joyetech/Wismec mods. I need to use entirely different temps settings (Ex. 540 F to equal a true 450 F) or TCR settings that do not match default material values (Ex. Ti1's TCR is 350 or 366, depending on source, but the value I may need to enter could be as high as 390 to get the temp setting to be accurate. Worse yet, I may need to change those values again quite a lot if I change the atty on one of their mods. In fact, depending on the atty, it's possible the built-in profile may work quite well and be accurate. There's just no telling until you try to vape the first time. Crazy methinks.
     
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    I don't do TC...but could it be Jeyetech have set their gear up to work together? i.e. their tanks/coils and their mods whereas the DNA200 is/can tunable for other attys?
     
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    Could be they have their mods tuned to better allow their own attys to shine but would be surprised they did that at the expense of making a mess of use with many other mods. At worst maybe they test only their own attys when tuning their mods. I dunno. I am sure their intention is for the mods to work really well for all attys. I can give them a pass for being a little conservative on the temp and making it a little lower than what is set but not something along the lines of 90F lower or needing a TCR value 30 pts higher than default as I have seen when using some attys.
     
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    The reason why I was asking was because I watched Phil Busardo's vid on the KF V3 Mini this morning and he chose to use the eVic Mini with it in TC mode, and it just got me thinking that if Joyetech had got it so wrong with their temp control why on earth would he pick that mod?...he must have just about every DNA200 mod ever made to choose from so why choose the eVic Mini?
     
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    Probably because he doesn't care about the accuracy of the temp setting vs actual temp and has gone ahead and adjusted his higher without mentioning. Or, for whatever reason he got lucky with that atty in that the settings are actually working fairly accurately. I dunno. Once they're set properly or adjusted to compensate, these mods work more than fine in TC and then it's all about their feel, battery life etc. and these are all areas that are undeniably good.

    All I do know is based on what I have experienced first hand and from what I have seen others share. The fact that I have the very same issues on 3 different models (RX200, VTC Mini and Cuboid) is also quite telling (same chipset/chipset family).

    Ok, it could be that my choice of attys for temp control are more prone to exhibiting the problems but I sort of think not as I have tried the ones below. As you can see, quite popular and well known models. Some like the Aromamizer work better than others on these mods. Thing that bugs me is that these mods all work well with little to no fuss on any other mods in TC.

    Aromoamizer RDTA
    Cthulhu V2
    Billow V2 Nano
    Hurricane (clone)
    Goliath V2
    Zephyrus V2
    Morph Tank (RBA)
    Griffin​
     
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    Okay fair shout mate...it's just been that since this morning it's had me wondering. I have the eVic Mini and the Cuboid and the resistance stays solid apart from the slow degradation of the coils...I will add that I hate the fire button on the Cuboid...it's so wishy washy compared to the eVic Mini
     
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    Could also be that I like a warm-ish vape (460 to 470 F is about an overall average for me) and maybe the differences in temp are more pronounced at the warmer settings. Seems many MTL vapers like Phil do not (Not sure if he does or doesnt) so maybe the undervalued setting isnt much of a concern in his case. Or he has a lucky mod, or joyetech probed it before sending to him, or it got banged around in transit damaging a component and actually making it operate better. Ok, now I'm just going over the deep-end! Hehehe
     
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    LOL...if I remember right he was using at about 400F
     
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    Mine was very rattly, perhaps the worst fire button rattle of any mod I have ever owned. Oddly enough, it mellowed out and now with a skin a touch better again. Still, a slight rattle but the skin did improve the feel of it. Of all these Wismec/Joyetech mods, the Cuboid is the least impressive in terms of overall build quality, IMO. That being said, I like the heft, feel in the hand and the battery life for a mod its size. I do recommend a skin. :)
     
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    Well, there you go. He was probably vaping at an actual 350 or something. Who knows. :)
     

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