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You're wasting your money on disposable vape gear

Discussion in 'The Thailand Vapers Lounge' started by fruit-lover, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. Submaniac
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    Submaniac Ayatolah of Rock 'N Rolla

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    I dunno, I am still die hard mechanical. I know Ryan hates them (due to his firefighting experience), but I have very little desire for a regulated device. And over the past few months there has be a quantum leap in development with first the DNA chip then the clone 350 chip pushing out over 100watts. Now these things are cheap and cold be bought for less than $50. I still have no desire for them. nearly all the chipped devices I have failed on me. On a mech I could go swimming with one in my pocket without any damage (other than the battery). For the newbies, I would say Kayfun and a mech.
     
  2. Dieter.
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    I'm sorry to say I disagree with you on this. In the ideal world you buy a mech get the right battery build a fine coil and all is fine. With my own experience, I'm happy I did not just do that. When i started to vape I bought the vaping gear from a local vendor, who seem not to have any idea of what he was doing or selling. I bought a mech mod and some ultrafire batteries, the only battery available and he told me they where just fine. I had some tanks with coils that had a resistance of 2.5 Ohms, and there wasn't much vapor in that combination, so I have up on the mechanical mod. Bought a VV electronic mod, and the vape was really fine.

    Then I came on here and did learn that my batteries where not suited for vaping devices, I learned about batteries, which ones to use in a mechanical mod, and important which ones not to use. And I found out that the mechanical mod I had nearly ditched, works fine with the right battery and a Nautilus mini, I still use it today. But as a newbie, i really did not know, what I was doing. With my own experience, I would not advice a complete newbie to buy a mechanical.
     
  3. fruit-lover
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    fruit-lover Thread Starter Well-Known Member

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    It seems that many if you are offering your opinion on a subject matter you don't yet comprehend.

    I have gone through the purchasing procedure of ego-c, MVP, iTaste, VTR , SVD, nemesis , chi-you, magneto and all of the atties, tanks and drippers,

    And then I find myself with a provari and now with a Vapor Shark.

    The simple truth is that they vape better that all of the mech mods and other devices that all of you are saying are so wonderful.

    Don't try and make the argument that it's a waste of $300 until you have actually tried this setup.

    You are embarrassing yourselves by saying that it's not worth it, even when you have never tried it
     
  4. debatedude
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    debatedude Mech Moderator Staff Member

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    No, you are embarrassing yourself by insisting that your opinion and your experiences are the only ones that count. I have news for you, your royal obtuseness: people are different. Vape experiences are different. While it's good to read/hear about different experiences and opinions, it is up to the individual to make up his/her mind about what is best. Not you.
     
  5. cmbrstefan

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    Fruit lover. I do agree that provary are top notch and I would like to get one also. But I have one wife and 2 children. Rent to pay school to pay petrol food toys for little and small blah blah blah... I just can't afford that wonderful piece of equipment it will be a great thing for advanced users that know what they want for the future and also have the budget.

    So at the moment I am really happy to ha e a mech it vapes the juice to great flavors but also that move cost me 2500 that was supported by my brother.

    Provary is for me a more proffesional device for the ones that know already what they are doing and not for the beginners that have mostly no clue what vv/vw is in the beginning. It took me 2 hours to explain my brother why to use wattage instead of voltage because he did not ohms law to make the calculation. Build a single coil for him at 2 ohms with 30ga wire and he happily vapes at 5-7 watts and guess he has been vaping for 1.5 years already.
     
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    fruit-lover Thread Starter Well-Known Member

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    Read the original post you ! IN MY OPINION

    and you should change you nickname because your debating skills are limited
     
  7. Longtail1
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    Longtail1 Vaping Troll

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    I have absolutely no doubt you have experience in buying devices Fruit Lover. I agree whole heartedly that the Provari is a fantastic device. I have one. I don't have the Vapor Shark but from what I have seen in reviews and from friends that own one, it is also a very good device. I am not saying that it is a waste of money at all. I am saying that a person NEW to vaping with no idea if they will be even LIKE vaping is not best advised to buy something that expensive. Your own experience that the people you ahve tried to convert, regardless of what equipment they used, went back to analogues and stopped vaping. That is a set up for someone more experienced that knows what they want.

    Onc e they know what they want they can buy the most effective gear they feel they can afford to get the experience they are after. NOT the experience you think they should have. I could easily say that the best vape comes froms from an un-kicked Cartel Mech mod and a Mephisto RDA with a dual coil 0.2ohm coil on it. Because that is MY preference. my ADV.
     
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    fruit-lover Thread Starter Well-Known Member

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    To be honest, I don't feel that strongly about it and think that you should cape whatever makes you happy.
    The main reason I posted this thread was to get people emotionally charged and say something interesting other than the mundane 'what juice are you vaping,'

    Food for thought gentlemen
     
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    You state that as if it was a fact. Your egotism is amazing. It is not, as you state,
     
  10. Longtail1
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    Longtail1 Vaping Troll

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    So you're trolling.
     
  11. Siam Diesel
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    Siam Diesel Nauti Moderator Staff Member

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    A very interesting topic on which there are clearly divergent opinions...makes for a fascinating read with the morning coffee and MBV Cinnamon Roll vape.

    Let's keep it civil and avoid any personal attacks...as we all know, opinions are like a certain part of the anatomy...everybody has one and sometimes, it stinks!
    :grin:
     
  12. Submaniac
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    Submaniac Ayatolah of Rock 'N Rolla

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    Yes, yes. I agree with Mr. Diesel here, we can have discussions while remaining calm and civil to each other, and I think people on this forum have been good about that. Let us not turn Thailandvapers into Thaivisa :don't like:

    Anyways, I think there is enough difference of opinion out there. I still like mechanicals because I know I can't break them. Other people's mileage may vary.
     
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    I agree that going directly to good quality mod will save money at the end and allows good vape quality since the first vape. I love my Provari, but find the Pipeline Pro still better now ;)

    sent from my Galaxy S5 using Tapatalk
     
  14. Konvict
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    Konvict ProVari Moderator

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    I googled it but can't find one in Thailand. Why do you like the Pipeline Pro better?

    I can see that it goes to 20 watt.

    Do you think you will find it better too compared with the ProVari P3?

    - - - Updated - - -

    The price is 184 Euro in Germany.
     
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    fridgemagnet Chiang Mai Vaper

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    I started with a Fogger V4 on a Pisces T mod, with INR18650-20R batteries.
    I still have the batteries.
    The Fogger was a bitch to set up, but I learned about wicks & coils, and am still happy with mech mods, though now I assemble my own mods out of various bits.
    I could be tempted to the dark side by a Vapourshark rDNA, but the expense puts me off.
     

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